We all want a healthy baby, there's no question of that, but Sally believes there are underlying beliefs to the common phrase "As long as the baby is healthy" that deserve closer examination. Are we giving up elements of birth that are more important than we realise when we say this?

Sally has identified 6 underlying beliefs to the statement "As long as the baby is healthy". The first three underlying beliefs were covered in Part 1:
http://www.spreaker.com/user/pregnancybirthandbeyond/as-long-as-the-baby-is-healthy-part-1

In this episode, part 2, Sally covers the following underlying beliefs:

* “Birth is dangerous and needs to be managed medically. Positive births are due to luck.”
* “Labour and birth are simply painful, pointless torture."
* “My experience is irrelevant and people who seek a positive experience are selfish and exposing the baby to risk.”

SPEAKERS
Dr Kirsten Small, obstetrician and PhD candidate
Professor Alec Welsh, University of NSW and obstetrician at Royal Hospital for Women, Sydney
Dr Sarah Buckley, GP, author and researcher on physiological birth

FURTHER READING
* Dignity in Birth Survey: Safe Motherhood for All
http://www.safemotherhoodforall.org.au/news/only-58-of-australian-women-have-the-birth-they-want/

* Film: "Microbirth": importance of labour and birth
http://microbirth.com/

INFORMATION AND SUPPORT:
* PANDA National Helpline (Perinatal Anxiety Depression Awareness)
Mon to Fri, 10am - 5pm AEST
1300 726 306
* Birth Talk: Resources for healing from birth
www.birthtalk.org/
* Conscious Birth: Birth Story Healing, no matter how long ago
www.consciousbirth.com/birth-story-healing/
* Birth choices advice and advocacy: Maternity Choices Australia
www.maternitychoices.org.au and Facebook

REFERENCES
* https://theconversation.com/factcheck-is-suicide-one-of-the-leading-causes-of-maternal-death-in-australia-65336
* http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth/why-is-the-fear-of-birth-rising/
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
* http://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/mortality-risk
* https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Standard2_Oct_2012_WEB.pdf
* “The Global Numbers and Costs of Additionally Needed and Unnecessary Caesarean Sections Performed per Year: Overuse as a Barrier to Universal Coverage” World Health Organisation 2010
* https://bmcpregnancychildbirth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12884-017-1343-3 (meaning of labour pain)
cochrane.org/CD004667/PREG_midwife-led-continuity-models-care-compared-other-models-care-women-during-pregnancy-birth-and-early
* Homer, CSE, MJA 205 (8) j 17 October 2016 "Models of maternity care: evidence for
midwifery continuity of care"
* http://www.peptonicmedical.se/about-peptonic/kerstin-uvnas-moberg/ (oxytocin research and impacts of pain medication on oxytocin production)
* http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth/why-is-the-fear-of-birth-rising/
* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22734617 (fear of childbirth and duration of labour)
* http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/bmjopen/3/11/e004047.full.pdf (links between fear of birth and depression)
* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18771508 (maternal response to own baby cry affected by c/s delivery
* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2819576/ (postpartum depression impacts on infants)
* https://theconversation.com/birth-intervention-and-harm-more-likely-in-private-hospitals-26801
* http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD000012.pub4/abstract (Impacts of environment on birth)
* http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0030399210000654 (impact of colour and design of environment)
* Prof. Maralyn Foureur research into environment: https://www.uts.edu.au/staff/maralyn.foureur
http://www.midwiferyjournal.com/article/S0266-6138(14)00198-3/pdf

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