Podcast guest Peter Steyn's book: ⁠https://www.paperplus.co.nz/shop/books/non-fiction/education-reference/politics/supping-with-satan?srsltid=AfmBOoqsORp8jKUum3x7t5pSDkHvvhzra1BqpyAjsoUREDicmkqJuKqR Chapters 00:00 Childhood in South Africa 08:52 Indoctrination and White Superiority in Education 12:47 Financial Motivations behind Apartheid 16:05 The Role of Propaganda in Maintaining Apartheid 27:05 Shifting Perspectives and Facing Dissent 30:32 Conscripted Service in Apartheid-Era South Africa 33:21 The Struggle of Cognitive Dissonance 35:48 Toughing It Out: Standing Up for Your Convictions 41:37 Being Hated for Caring for All People 44:35 Transitioning Out of the Army and Starting a New Job 55:10 Intelligence Agencies and the Manipulation of Governments