The way things are today with so many divisions among us, sometimes it seems like we can’t even have a discussion about what’s going on in the world without being at each others’ throat. Today, we’re going to talk about that on the Lean to the Left podcast.

Our guest is Corey Nathan, host of the popular podcast ""Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other," who's work is focused on collaborating with people across religious, political and social divides to help understand and repair some of our culture’s rancor.

Corey started out as a stockbroker by day while studying at a theatre conservatory at night. Since then, he’s been an entrepreneur with one foot in creative pursuits having built such endeavors as a niche executive search firm; a theatre and film ensemble; a residential and commercial service company; a 501c3 to help folks during the pandemic; and most recently a new media/content company.

Corey’s growing audience has been enjoying the engaging, provocative and fun conversations about these subjects on his podcast.

During our interview, we talk some politics with Corey saying he thinks Ron DeSantis will flame out in his quest for the GOP presidential nomination, that Donald Trump will emerge as the nominee, but that former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and former Rep. Liz Chaney are interesting alternatives.