Dr. Kristin Neff, Associate Professor in the Educational Psychology Dept. at the University of Texas at Austin, co-founder of non-profit Center for Mindful Self-Compassion, and author, joins us from Austin, TX, to discuss her latest book, Fierce Self-Compassion:  How Women Can Harness Kindness to Speak Up, Claim Their Power, and Thrive.   Musician, Errol Wander, who grew up in the same hometown of Dr. Mara, Rockaway Beach, New York,  joins us from NY to talk about his passion in music and how he stayed connected with it, even during the pandemic lockdown.... and we'll play some of his original music.   And Dr. Mara with more on living the passionate life through obstacles and emerging from isolation.