This past week has been a rough one for many Black folx. This episode featuring Tabitha Coombs was recorded a couple days prior to the police shootings of Jacob Blake and Trayford Pellerin.

Cartier and Tabitha examine the call for All Black Lives Matter and question whether we are ready to accept what this actually means. All Black Lives Matter includes womxn, homeless, trans, disabled—all Black people. The two discuss this problem in terms of proximity to whiteness and wonder who is responsible for caring for all Black lives.

Megan Thee Stallion's experience has prompted us to ask, how do we define success outside of whiteness and how do Black men participate in the abuse of Black womxn?

Listen in to hear Cartier and Tabitha pull from their experiences and grapple with the traumas of what's happened and what lies ahead—and the added difficulty of trusting white people because of the trauma and burden of educating them on racism and prejudices.