According to the latest reports, 30,000 Gazans have been killed in Israel's war with Gaza, a majority being women and children. But are the numbers coming from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry correct? Are there obvious indications that these numbers are false? Moreover, do the numbers even matter or is this an emotional appeal to those already convinced that Israel is committing genocide?

To discuss all this, JNS editor-in-chief Jonathan Tobin is joined by Statistics Professor Abraham Wyner. They delve into why he thinks the numbers are obviously false and eaten up all to often by media eager to blame Israel.