This time our guest is the open source ninja and dynamic public service leader Pia Andrews. Annie and I had a fascinating chat with Pia. We discussed the challenges of remote working in the time of covid, how she undertakes servant leadership to build her teams, and about her hope for the future of public service and the delivery of joined up government services for citizens.

I am often inspired when chatting with Pia - her optimism for the future gives me hope that there are practical steps we can take to build a better future for all of us.
http://pipka.org/
https://womenswork.me/