The president of the Rockefeller Foundation says the World Bank and other financial institutions must do more to rise to the challenges of economic and climate crises that threaten to unwind global development gains. Michael Igoe sits down with Rajiv Shah to talk about this, and how the foundation’s historical ties to oil money have affected its present-day focus on climate transitions.

Before becoming president of The Rockefeller Foundation, Raj Shah served as USAID administrator under President Obama, as Chief Scientist at USDA, and in a range of leadership roles at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.