“We shouldn’t be shy, but use the numbers we have to make estimations related to COVID-19, cancer, car accidents and many other topics. Even the most basic data are better today than 20 years ago,” says Wolfgang Fengler, Lead Economist at the World Bank, in our new podcast episode with Johannes Paul Jütting, Executive Head of PARIS21. Together, they discuss the impact of COVID-19 on population growth, poverty rates as well as development in Africa & talk about why it is important to look at statistical trend lines and not just at sensational headlines.