What if we have a relapse after a long period of sobriety?   In this episode Vern shares from his life about how demoralizing this can be but also how to get back up on our feet with the proper perspective.

Vern has a brand new circle learning platform for people looking for connection and free resources in their recovery from porn.  To get access to this platform join up using the following link - if privacy is a concern use your initials or an alibi for your name... (I have my regular name and I have another called Tom Landry - so you can find me!)

https://bandofbrothers-care.circle.so/join?invitation_token=5388d93418377c032a4cc121558868401484a4f3-39382185-b376-4e67-8d18-183f81064cc2

If you want more informtion on these (or for any other reason - like football advice)  you can contact me at bandofbrothers.care@gmail.com