Three former military officials have testified before a House Oversight subcommittee on Wednesday, July 26, 2023 that they believe the government knows much more about UFOs than it is telling the public, but they also focused more on improving processes for reporting UAPs and transparency on the events for the American people. Former Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves recounted an incident that happened off the coast of Virginia Beach in 2014 while flying an F-18 where they came upon & almost collided with an aircraft that was a "dark gray or black cube inside of a clear sphere". He also founded a group that supports aviators who have reported similar phenomenon & the objects that are reportedly being seen by military & commercial pilots that are performing maneuvers which are unexplainable due to our current understanding of our technology.

Retired Cmdr. David Fravor talked about his encounter which was in 2004, where he & 3 others saw a white “Tac Tac”-shaped flying object emerge over the San Diego coast in California. He said, "There were no rotors, no rotor wash, or any visible flight control surfaces like wings." As they tried to get closer to the object, "it rapidly accelerated & disappeared right in front of our aircraft," leaving no detectable turbulence. Retired Major David Grusch spoke about a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval & reverse engineering program that he was exposed to during his time on a UAP task force. Grusch says that he has not personally spotted a UAP or any alien bodies, but his opinions are based on the accounts of over 40 witnesses that he interviewed while he was on the UAP task force. He also said he has interviewed individuals who have recovered "nonhuman biologics" from crashed UAPs.

In a statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.” But Ryan Graves urged Congress and government officials to put aside stigma and address the security and safety issue that this topic represents.

Join us on episode 165 to hear more about this Congressional hearing on UAPs and the three former military officials’ experience with them!

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